Madison Fit Pleat-Front Classic Gabardine Trousers

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Madison Fit Pleat-Front Classic Gabardine Trousers

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$ 168.00

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Tailored in pure worsted wool. On-seam pockets. Lined to the knee. Cuffed hem. Dry clean. Imported.

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Tailored in pure worsted wool. On-seam pockets. Lined to the knee. Cuffed hem. Dry clean. Imported.

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Rated 2.7 out of 5 by 40 reviewers.
Rated 1 out of 5 by If it wasn't broken, why try to fix it? I have been wearing the brooks brothers gabardine line of pants for years now. I went into the store today for my yearly purchases and tried on the same size as previously and was surprised to find that they had MARKEDLY changed. They waist rides very low, and the crotch (more technically called rise) is about 3 inches higher, making it a much tighter fit. I spoke to the salesperson and they said that with the new style, I may need to increase the waist size for more comfort. I went up 1 inch, and it was still too tight. I increased by two inches and they fell off my waist. I have a fairly athletic build and these did not fit well at all - far too tight. I would advise anyone thinking that they are getting the same pants as before to try them on before ordering online. The difference is significant, and unfortunately for the worse. Brooks brothers - if you are reading these reviews, please bring back the previous line - they were fashionable, durable, and extremely comfortable. If this line is to stay, then unfortunately I will need to look for a new brand. July 31, 2012
Rated 1 out of 5 by "If it ain't broke..." Well, they broke it. These pants were once a staple of my wardrobe. No longer. I purchase clothes from Brooks Brothers because they generally sell quality products. I used to purchase these particular pants because they fit. Now, they don't fit. I do not want to have to try on 10 new pairs of pants each time I need new pants. I simply want to buy what worked for me in the past. For reasons I cannot guess at, Brooks Brothers recently made significant changes to these pants. They decreased the rise to the point that the crotch is much too short and very uncomfortable. In doing so, they took a pair of pants that worked very well for me, and which I would buy over and over, and they ruined them. I must now look elsewhere for pants that fit. Hopefully, whichever manufacturer I find whose pants fit like these pants used to fit, will understand their customers well enough not to risk ruining a good product by radically changing something that is perfectly workable exactly the way it is. Brooks Brothers is not what is was. Bottom line: if you are buying these pants based on an older pair that fit, DON'T. You will be disappointed. January 27, 2013
Rated 3 out of 5 by gabardine fit has changed drasticially Been buying gabardine pants for years. probably have over 10 pairs. The new Madison cut, which brooks say are the "roomiest" cut, has completely changed. i have a closet full of 33 waist pants, and ordered 34 based on reviews saying they run small. Had to return them all and get 35 waist. the sizing runs very small and these are tight in the thigh. The zipper dimensions are also very different. the now sit much lower on the waist, and the zipper is much shorter. makes it hard to even tuck in your shirt. These pants need to be tried on first to determine the size that fits you. when i returned the 4 pairs i bought on line i asked the saleswomen what has changed and she quickly responded that brooks has a "new supplier" of these pants, and that i was not the only person returning them. Brooks brothers needs to bring back the old style gabardine cut. January 18, 2012
Rated 1 out of 5 by Rise has changed and is far too short. Unwearable. I recently bought two pairs of these. The rise is far too short. The pants really pull at your crotch and are extraordinarily uncomfortable as a result. I compared the length of the zipper to the older pair i was replacing, and the zipper was two inches shorter on the new pair. Never knew they were intended to be hip huggers.... This is a horrible design error that, shockingly, persists despite these terribly accurate reviews of a flawed product. BB also discontinued long rise trousers as an option, presumably to reduce SKUs, leaving loyal lifetime customers NO option to get properly fitting trousers. January 1, 2013
Rated 2 out of 5 by What have you done to these pants? THese are not the same pants as before. I recently bought 3 new pairs - I've been wearing the pleat-front Madisons, size 35x30 for as long as I can remember. Now I have to buy a 37 waist - my old 35s still fit fine - and even with the larger size, the rise is too short, the crotch and the thighs are too tight. These have been my everyday pants for 15 years, but for the first time I now have to consider looking somewhere else for my basic dress pants. September 12, 2012
Rated 2 out of 5 by Too Small In Rise And Seat The pants I received in Feb-2013 had too short of a rise, and were too small in the seat area. I don't believe that I have an unusual body type: I'm 6 ft 3 in tall, and I weigh about 215 lb. For decades, I've been able to easily find pants that fit me; not just from Brooks Brothers-- although I've bought clothing from Brooks Brothers for over 20 years. In fact, about 5 years ago at a Brooks Brothers store, I bought 2 pairs of pants very similar to these, and neither pair needed alterations of any kind-- not even hemming. Each of the pants was size 42 waist and size 34 inseam. The pants were made in Canada. The pants I ordered recently were size 42, with an unfinished inseam, and were made in Thailand. Even before I tried on the pants, the rise appeared unusually short to me; and sure enough, when I tried them on, I saw that the rise was unusually short, and they were very tight in the seat area. They fit fine in the waist. Worst of all, after taking the pants off, I saw that the factory left essentially no extra fabric in the rise or seat area, so it would be impossible for a tailor to let them out in those areas. I'm pretty disappointed. I believe Brooks Brothers should once again tailor the fit of its dress pants so that when a customer with an average build orders a pair, the pants will fit in the rise and seat area; not just in the waist. Brooks Brothers should not tailor its dress pants so that they'll only fit anorectic male fashion models. February 14, 2013
Rated 1 out of 5 by You Changed the Cut, I'm Leaving BB You had a great thing going but the new cut is terrible. Rides too high in the crotch. I called BB customer service and they confirmed that they have changed the cut of the Madison and the traditional fit is gone. Unfortunately I'll look elsewhere for my clothes. October 26, 2012
Rated 3 out of 5 by Why did you change the cut? I see that I am not the only one to discover that BB has changed the cut of its traditional dress pants. I recently bought three pairs of Madison dress pants and have found that they are uncomfortable. They ride below my waist and the crouch rise is too shallow. Are you trying to save on fabric? I can't wear them. They are not comfortable. I will no longer buy BB dress pants. August 9, 2012
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2 years, 6 months ago
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sandwah
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As of Dec-2012, the Madison fit is the small, tight seat, low rise version. Why I don't know or understand. Terrible fit.
1 year, 3 months ago
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DisappointedCustomer
New Jersey, USA
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I just bought a few pairs and returned them, they are still the small fit, they feel like low-rider jeans, to tight in the legs and seat and way to short in the inseam.
1 year, 11 months ago
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If you look at my comments, you'd know I've railed against these pants for the past year. However, I went just this week to try on the pants again to give them one last try, told the sales person about the "old" fit vs. "new" fit, and he confirmed they went back to the "old" fit with longer rise. I tried on several pairs in different colors and can confirm that the rise is certainly longer and the pants fit much more comfortably. If possible, I would recommend going to a store and trying them on before purchasing online though.
2 years ago
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New Jersey
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New BB fit. You must buy 2 sizes larger. AND it is a lower cut like a woman's jeans.
2 years, 2 months ago
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Miami
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Answer: 
The trousers I received in late December 2011 are low rise and trim fit.
2 years, 3 months ago
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Pentif
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Seems really small to me....in the last 2 years
2 years, 3 months ago
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berezotko
Chicago
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This is the new, trimmer fit. It doesn't work for me.
2 years, 5 months ago
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Navyblue
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Answer: 
No! Actually, Brooks Brothers has realized that their switching of fit of the pants caused such anguish that they have gone back to the OLD fit. So these are the normal, long-rise Gabardine Trousers of old.

I've had quite lenghty conversations with one of their excellent customer service representatives since they made the switch and he informed me today that these are the old fit.

Cheers to a company that puts its customers first!
2 years, 6 months ago
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AnotherHappyShopper
Atlanta, GA
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It seems like there isn't clear direction on whether or not the Madison fit slacks have returned to the "old" i.e. roomier cut. Can someone from BB please confirm? Given the majority of negative reviews on the "new" cut, when can we expect a return of the previous cut that most everyone seems to want?
2 years, 2 months ago
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In Feb-2013, I ordered a pair of Madison pants, in size 42 waist with an unfinished inseam.

The pants I ordered fit me fine in the waist; but they were too short in the rise, much too small in the seat area, and because the factory did not leave any extra fabric in those areas, they could not be let out.

In the past (for example, just 5 years ago), every pair of Brooks Brothers pants that I tried on would fit me just fine in the rise and seat areas, if they fit in the waist.
1 year, 1 month ago
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IngersollRand
Overland Park, KS, USA
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I recently bought 12 pairs of the Madison gabardine trousers. The fit is radically different than the old "traditional" (i.e., roomier) cut. Not sure why Brooks made this decision. VERY disappointing.
1 year, 3 months ago
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DisappointedCustomer
New Jersey, USA
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I spoke with BB customer service this week. No plans to return to the traditional Madison fit. The cut is definitely different.
1 year, 5 months ago
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JJ213
Michigan, USA
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Just bought two pairs and they did not bring back the old cut.
1 year, 7 months ago
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Jamesf
Stratford, CT
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I tried on the Madison fit slacks in every color last summer, fall, and again in December. As of then, they remain the trim, high rise fit. I will give them one more chance in the coming weeks. Considering every customer rep has been telling me for 8 months now that they've abandoned the "new" fit, if the slacks I try on then are not the "old" fit, I will not be coming back to BB for dress pants.

Just for the record, and I can't explain it, the black and charcoal colors have a low rise and looser fit. This was the case when I bought one pair in every color back in May. I tried on the black, thought the fit was excellent, purchased the remaining colors, and was shocked to find that charcoal was the only other remotely comfortable color. The massive disparity in cut depending on color was and is very odd.
2 years, 1 month ago
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JoeM
New Jersey
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Answer: 
Hello,

We have returned to the original specs of this product. All the new trousers are back to the old Madison fit. Past inventory has been consolidated to certain retail locations.

Thank you for contacting us.

Have a great day.
2 years, 2 months ago
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1 year, 5 months ago
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I was happy to read the other replies so as to confirm I'm not losing my mind. BrooksBrothers has definitely changed the dimensions (or contracted out to a different vendor) on the Madison slacks versus what it used to be years ago. I concur that the new ones have no room. I don't know why they changed this. The rise is short. The roominess is gone.
10 months ago
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BrianC1
New Jersey, USA
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Madison is supposed to be, but in some recent versions, it no longer is
1 year, 2 months ago
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Dallas, TX, USA
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None of the fits are generous and roomy anymore. Brooks has shifted to a tailored, low-rise, slim fit profile even for their Madison cut. Very disappointing.
1 year, 3 months ago
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DisappointedCustomer
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The current Madison fit is waaay too tight, with no rise whatsoever.
1 year, 5 months ago
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Jack72
Fairfield, CT
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Answer: 
Hello, thank you for your inquiry. For our dress trousers, the roomiest fit is the Madison. It is our fullest cut and has a pleated front. For our dress shirts, we recommend the Traditional fit, it is our largest and has plenty of room through the chest and shoulders.

We do hope this information is helpful.
Kind regards,
Brooks Brothers
1 year, 5 months ago
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What is the country of origin for these pants? When I last bought Madison pants they were made in the US. Are they still made domestically?
2 years ago
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The pants I purchased Feb-2013 were made in Thailand.
1 year, 1 month ago
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Believe it or not, sometimes Mexico on their blazers so I imagine that is the case for these..
1 year, 11 months ago
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The country of origin is Thailand.
2 years ago
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