Rated 3 out of 5 by Kevo These are incredibly tight around the waist
I had gift cards and I needed some new work pants, otherwise I wouldn't have bought these. I have a lot of BB shirts, but these are my first BB pants, and as everyone else has pointed out, they fit very tight around the waist/crotch. I had to buy a 35x32 (thankfully I tried these on in the store so I could find the right size). I usually wear 33-34 waist and a 33-34 length, so the sizing here is way off, and I was so relieved to see other people thought these were tight. I have 2 Calvin Klein slim fit suits with 34" waist pants that on me have a little extra room. Likewise, I have a pair of Bowery pants from J. Crew (those are super comfy by the way) that are a little loose with a 34" waist. It's not a big deal to have to buy a 35" waist from BB, but it seems like the sizing is way off, so I wouldn't buy them without trying them on. Also thanks for making me think I'd got fat over the holidays BB, at least you got me going to the gym.
January 6, 2013
Rated 1 out of 5 by Jlwiggi2 Worst fit ever!
I am a loyal Brooks Brothers customer who probably has 100 articles of clothing from this company. I only wear Brooks Brothers dress pants to work and when I ordered 2 replacement pairs I assumed they would fit the same. The new cut is atrocious and literally unwearable. When I inquired to customer care the gentleman told me that nothing had changed and he was unsure of why they didn't fit. This is absurd as the fit went from a classic relaxed style to a skinny jean style. Unfortunately I am going elsewhere for my pants/suits needs because of this change and unless you try these pants on in the store first I would highly recommend that you keep the return receipt.
October 5, 2013
Rated 1 out of 5 by MAG7 Too tight
I was lucky to try them. before in the store they are too tight and don't fit
Many people wrote about it and Brooks doesn't seem to listen or respond. Anyone from the Company can explain ?
October 24, 2013
Rated 2 out of 5 by JCIC New Madison cut is unacceptable
Why BB changed the cut is a mystery. Why they haven't done anything about all the complaints and corrected the issue is a sign of indifference. I wore my previous purchase of Madison pants today and they fit just fine. Two new pair of the same size arrived today, and as you will read from other reviews on the pleated pant, the new cut is at least 1 size below standard and the thigh and crotch are so tight they are unwearable. I am returning both tomorrow and will replace them from another retailer.
December 9, 2012
Rated 1 out of 5 by DisappointedCustomer TERRIBLE! Fits like low rise jeans. Why change?
I have been wearing the "traditional cut" Brooks Gabardine trousers for as long as I can remember #20+ years#. However, when I went to replace some of my aging pants, I was shocked to discover the radical change in the cut and fit. I purchased 12 pairs #yes, 12!# to replace my old Brooks trousers. I ordered them in the same size I used to wear, but found that they were incredibly tight, with no room in the thighs and seat. So, I returned all 12, and bought another 12 pairs that were 2 inches wider to get something even close to fitting. Well, the waist is a bit better, but the new low rise cut is really uncomfortable and extremely tight in the thigh and seat area. The trousers just don't fit right with the new low rise profile.
What was Brooks thinking when they re-designed this classic cut? I read a recent article in the WSJ where Brooks discussed making all of their cuts more tailored. Why? I suspect that your average customer is not looking for trousers that complement their skinny jeans collection!
Another note: I noticed that production has shifted to Thailand. Long-time Brooks customers #like me!# will recall that up until several years ago, all of these trousers were made in Canada. I have noticed that the quality of the wool has declined markedly. With the Canadian Gabardines, I was able to go an entire day in the office without noticing any real wrinkles in the seat area. With the new low-quality Thailand material, after 1-2 hours the pants are so wrinkled that it is embarassing.
I am now incented, for the first time in 30 years of shopping at Brooks, to seek out a new retailed who better understands their customer for my pants, suits, shirts, etc. This was a very poor business decision by somebody at Brooks, and given all the negative comments I see here, I think there is wide agreement. If I ran the company, somebody would be fired.
As an executive myself, I would love to hear a response from senior management at Brooks regarding their decision and their apparent disregard of customer feedback. I'd be happy to personally speak with your senior management, if possible.
December 25, 2012
Rated 2 out of 5 by skim Why fix something that isn't broken?
Before buying the pants, I asked the sales-person at the store about the recent complaints about how the new Madison cuts were fitting. She told me that the sizes had been changed back to the original recently due to complaints, so I bought a couple to replace ones that I had happily worn for a few years. I guess I should only blame myself for buying them without trying them on, because now I realize that these pants simply don't fit me anymore.
It's such a shame....
May 13, 2013
Rated 2 out of 5 by sbergbike These pants are cut VERY small
The waist size is a little snug compared to other Brooks Brothers trousers (eg gaberdine pleated front, or regular fit suits). The legs and seat area are cut for a very thin person. I am 6 foot and 180lbs and can't imagine how much larger than normal I would have to order these pants for them to fit well.
November 26, 2012
Rated 1 out of 5 by Broker Very Disappointed
I have been a loyal BB client for years, however, with the recent changes to the cut and fit of your dress-style trousers this will no longer be the case. I am very disappointed that BB would move in this direction and force loyal clients to shop elsewhere.
January 10, 2013